A model for a very good scale and a bad scale. (English) Zbl 1156.03045

Summary: Given a supercompact cardinal \(\kappa \) and a regular cardinal \(\lambda < \kappa \), we describe a type of forcing such that in the generic extension the cofinality of \(\kappa \) is \(\lambda \), there is a very good scale at \(\kappa \), a bad scale at \(\kappa \), and SCH at \(\kappa \) fails. When creating our model we have great freedom in assigning the value of \(2^{\kappa }\), and so we can make SCH hold or fail arbitrarily badly.


03E04 Ordered sets and their cofinalities; pcf theory
03E35 Consistency and independence results
03E55 Large cardinals
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